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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:16 am

thanx B. Heres what I did tonight. Im taking advantage of my misfortune while the motor is out AGAIN!!

Ok so tonight I went outside in my flippies and socks to finish up the ABS delete. I picked up the 2 RS front brake lines from honda that cost about fifty bucks. As it turned out all I really neded to buy was the passenger side line, I could have reused the driver side by just cutting it shorter and putting a bend in it. Ohh well. It was only like six dollars so it was worth it. Other than the one thats all I had to buy. A friend gave me the Prop valve, Thanx Joey, and I used the stock booster and MC from my LS. Heres the pics.

start with bleeding the system


pulling the ABS


heres the lines and prop valve from a CRX


heres the passenger line its the easy one


heres the driver side its kinda tough to run just right


heres the prop valve in place



heres me making the lines with the flaring tool



heres how I made my bends


here it is a hooked up


ok so thats it for tonight ill bleed it all tomorrow and see if it worked.
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:56 am

Hey I thought id update my progress. I got news that I might get my bottom end back this week. I cant freakin wait!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:14 am

YAY! bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:47 pm

so u gonna be at the track with it this fri or what

disco great job on the build man u really have put a hell of a lot of work into that car and it freakin shows

also nice job on the write up so u were just pullin the abs to save weight right

i have a gsr and have seen the dyno diff but the car just felt smoother and would smoke another gsr with stock mani so i still say psssssh to the gsr mani
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:20 pm

We shouldve started another thread just for the GSR Mani debate. Ha ha. Every respected honda builder in theis area that ive spoken to says that the stock mani is a holy freakin terror in the 1/8 mile. (Adams, Lorange,S&P,and Lightning in LA.) All them agree for my build its the way to go. Since im mainly going to race localy and I want a peppy street car then im sticking with it for a while. When I add direct port nitrous then I might think about changing it out for another. MAybe. You have to remember one thing about my build. Im not ever going to exceed the stock rev limit. So do your homework and see where the manufacturers brag about the biggest power gains for there manifolds. You will be suprised. Adams has dyno sheet proving my point for my build. Laughing

Thankyou very much for the recognition about my car. I love to hear it of course. And after all ive been through Ive learned tons and tons of lessons about building a race car. I say race car cause this will be as close as I will ever come to owning a real race car so to me thats what it really is. Ill drive it almost daily in the eavnings but or the most part this car will never see any real miles between rebuilds.

As for the ABS. It never has worked since ive owned the car and its just not nessessary for what I plan to do with the car. I also wanted the extra room in the engine bay and of course it cleanes it up tons by gettting rid of it. The weight savings was somewhere around 20-25 lbs just a rough guess. By having that space in the engine bay clear it leaves me room to route my air filter even further away from the hot engine and I am probably gonna mount my nitrous silanoids in the same area.


something like this... I think... im still tryting to come up with a really clean way to mount it all. its tough. Ive already spent like three days on it and still dont like the configuration. We'll see no biggie. Today I bought the fitings the run my purge line in a way that I think will be most bitchen. Ill take pics.

I will be at the track this friday night im sure the car wont be ready by then though. If I get the motor tomorrow night like S&P said I might then I will have it in the car tues night and done by Wed night. But once again I still need to take it to Lorange and let them work the Chrome Magic.
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:00 am

ok here ya go I couldnt get it the way I wanted cause I cant find just the right fitting. Maybe ill do it later.

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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:19 pm

dont get me wrong though im not dissing ur gsr mani

i would really like to see that thing run at the track asap
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:36 pm

Ohh yeah i dont think yer dissing it your just sold on something different. Its cool we all like what we like.
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:35 pm

its not that im sold on something else its just that i used my butt dyno and could feel the diff between my gsr mani and my skunk2 ( i dont even really like the skunk2 all that much but i got a killer deal so i couldnt pass up if i could do it all over again i think i would get the eddlebrock and yea i know they are all designed to have topend peak hp) but when i but the intake mani on i also put on a header a full exhaust so it really liked to pull on the top end like crazy.....but its nice to see somebody doin something diff
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:41 pm

Here we go again with assembling the ls vtec. I had a local machine shop that specializes in Hondas fix the bottom end after my lack of oil pressure on the last build. The Eagle crank had to be turned. The New head and block got machined. I had them install all the new internals this time. Just FYI Im running the lightned balanced eagle crank and rods w/Arias pistons and rings, and clevite bearrings.

Heres the bottom end all assembled with new GSR oil pump. Im not taking any chances.

heres my head and makeshift work area.

Bolted up the flywheel after checking all the tourqe specks on the rear main seal

No I didnt have it resurfaced maybe I should have I dunno no one said it was nessasary but I mase sure to clean it and the pressure plate.

using the clutch alignment tool to line up the clutch

and bolting up the pressure plate

now its time for the oil pick up and sheild. I made sure to clean the heck out of them after spinning a bearing and replaced the pick up gasket

now I set the oil pan gasket into place and dropped on the pan after cleaning the heck out of it

Heres it all bolted down


Now its time to pick that bugger up and set it on the ground to line up the transmission. I used the 2X4 to level the motor for the trans to slide in place easier

Once the trans is bolted on its all pretty easy from here like bolting the new water pump and thermostat on

heres the golden eagle conversion adapter and that weird box that I dont know what its called.


so far thats it im gonna go back outside in a min and get it ready to drop in place. Il update later if anyone sees anyhthing they would have done different or that I missed feel free to comment.
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:35 am

OK time to bolt more accessories on

heres the starter I had it rebuilt and painted


heres the slightly modified tensioner and alt bracket etc


alright this is the part I like droppin her in


transmission side goes in first I put in the mount bolt and let the motor pivot down


and lower the driver side mount into its cradle it takes a little twisting to get the bolts to thread


heres the biggest pain in my rear I hate this bracket it can be a bear but in my case with no head or intake manifold it was pretty easy


here it is in place it takes rocking the motor a bit but it went in fine


heres the alternator rebuilt and painted like the starter and my valve cover. I also switched to a wiks oil filter. The guys at Eagle sugested against a fram filter. This one is black so im gonna try it


Ok so ill do some more tomorrow and update it some more. Comments welcome
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PostSubject: update   Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:35 pm

ok another update

heres the ac compressor going back in. It gets hot in Fl so I opted to keep it


And the lower motor mounts


if your keping your ac like me dont forget to put the ac belt around the driver side lower mount


ok time to reinstall the axles


the driver side it a bit harder due to it being longer and has this braket its still not hard just heavier

for some reason I allways wait to put the flywheel inspection plate and transmission to block bracket till after the motors in the car I dunno why.


Ok now to reattach the shift linkage. This pin can be insanely hard to remove without the right tools


Heres what I found works for getting that pin out. I didnt want to go out and buy a punch so I found a bolt in my box thats just a hair smaller than the pin. Then get the old hammer out and tap that bugger out. I can take some stout tapping.


once the pin is back in put the retainer thingy back in place and rotate it so the pin is captured


alright as usual comments are welcome Ill go back out after lunch
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:05 pm

hell of a nice wright up mang good job on the build its lookin killer i love the blk starter

as far as the flywheel goes my old school mopar buddy says always turn the flywheel always but lorange says yea sometimes u need to and sometimes u dont last i told them to do it but they told me it didnt need to be done so they didnt do it and its fine
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:13 pm

Hey thats really good to hear about the flywheel. I didnt even think about it till the last min. Heres a teaser pic im gonna do somethin I think will be sick to this freshly Painted Emeron White Valve cover. Its just temperarily set in place. By the way the significanse(sp?) of the valve cover being Emeron is nothin like to stick to it and its insanely hard paint,
my NOS bottle is painted with the same stuff.



The verdict is still out on wether or not I like the super brightness of the white. Right now im rockin the black one.
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:20 am

i persoly fuckin love the white that shit looks killa illa ive been wanting to do something with my valve cover for a min now and now i think u gave me an idea

again great job man i think she is coming together nicely alien
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:40 am

ok so heres some more progress. I kinda got lazy with the pics cause all this stuff should be pretty easy and self explanitory.

Heres the intake mani gettin tourqued down. I already transferred all the misc components like V tec silanoid and oil fittings.


heres the head gasket copper coated with the dowel pins in place


gotta snug up the new gsr head bolts and tourqe them down in the proper order. My wife suprised me this morning with a brand new crafstman torque wrench and speed wrench


getting the wiring harness in place


my freshly painted valve cover ready for some artwork


gettin the cams and cam caps set in place


I know it sounds silly bit this took hours to get ran just right. It started its life as a LS Cold air intake. Then I used it as a gsr short ram and now its this. Im still not sure if I like it whaddya think?


here it is almost finished with my old black valve cover. ANd the header bolted in place. Thanx Ashley for bolting it on.


Alright folks comments welcome
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:27 am

props for doin something kinda different with the intake but ehhh i dont know if u will notice a difference or not but worth a try

what kinda header is that ? also do u plan on dyno and are u gonna dyno it at the dyno day
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:33 am

Im not expecting any performance gain form the intake just tryin to clean thins up a bit. And be different.

The header is a Megan Racing header Its nice.

I hope to dyno it some day I dunno about dyno day? $60 right?
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:40 am

ehhh come on help support the scene besides it can only get better they are tryin to make this a yearly thing
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:01 am

Disco wrote:
Hey thats really good to hear about the flywheel. I didnt even think about it till the last min. Heres a teaser pic im gonna do somethin I think will be sick to this freshly Painted Emeron White Valve cover. Its just temperarily set in place. By the way the significanse(sp?) of the valve cover being Emeron is nothin like to stick to it and its insanely hard paint,
my NOS bottle is painted with the same stuff.



The verdict is still out on wether or not I like the super brightness of the white. Right now im rockin the black one.

Thats the color I painted my brothers valve cover! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:20 am

ok all assembled I still havn't started it up. Ill do it tomorrow. Im nervous as heck after all ive been through with this build.


heres a few shots




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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:38 pm

looks good mang me personally i like the white valve cover better than the blk but dont get me wrong it looks good to
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:47 pm

Well its up and running. I finnaly got the balls to crank it up this morning. It started right up and runs great. I have what I think is a tap comming from the head closest to the Distributor. Im not sure if its the way it should sound or if something is a little out of adjustment? Other than that it idles perfectly and is holding oil pressure
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:58 pm

hell yea now get that mofo tuned and bring it out and lets seem what she will do
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PostSubject: Re: Motor Swap Again   Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:36 pm

I have an apointment on Mon at lorange to be tuned. Ill be at the track on friday maybe sat too. Wifey will be out of town so I think ill bracket race saturday!!!! Lord knows I need some seat time. When Travis let me drive his car last friday I red lighted twice.
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